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Scalable testing for insecure SAML signature validation
Thijs Kinkhorst (SURF)

The SAML 2.0 protocol relies on XML signatures as the foundation of its security. A SAML assertion is signed with XMLDsig and the SP must properly validate this signature. If it does not, basically anyone in the world can trivially provide it with assertions thereby logging in as anyone, which also cannot be easily detected or even seen by the IdP. XMLDsig (and SAML) is notoriously complex and allows for many ways to create one or more signatures for any document. This makes that an implementation can easily fall victim to accepting not properly signed data - and even common implementations in our world like Shibboleth and SimpleSAMLphp have had issues here in the past. Besides these common products, which at least are periodically audited for such problems, a much larger risk is custom implementations that use different or even home grown libraries. Most of the times, the happy path is tested (does login work), but the unhappy path (do invalid assertions fail), not so much.

Given the paramount importance of signature validation, we should have a way to test whether SPs check signatures correctly. Although this can be done manually already, what's lacking is a scalable way that can test e.g. eduGAIN-like size of service providers (repeatedly) and for a large proportion of that set, determine if signatures are processed correctly. This requires to devise tests to fire off at these SPs and heuristics to determine automatically whether the tests passed or failed.

Some ideas of specific scenarios to test, all of which we've seen in real life to fail:

  • Signature not checked at all, modified message accepted
  • Modified message with signature rejected, but message without any signature accepted
  • Multiple signatures on the same message/signature wrapping attacks
  • Correctly signing a part of the message but unsigned part with attributes accepted.

Peter Brand (ACOnet)

Automation of
deployment and
configuration
of initial set of SPs
for new federations
Mario 
Reale
(GÉANT)

While supporting new federations in setting up their infrastructures, IdPs and SPs,  generally speaking, we still do not have much automation in place. All is done, still very manually, and takes much time. Talking specifically of the SPs, both for the installation and configuration of the services themselves, and the required operations to federate them , and (i.e. make them fully functional SAML2 Service Providers), in order to be able to provide them in a federated (e.g.eduAGAIN) fashion, pretty much all is still left to manual set up. 

It would be useful to enhance the level of support we provide to them with the aim of quickly being able to deploy an initial set of services, the ones which could de-facto start to attract users towards the newly deployed federation infrastructure and the federated IdPs. 

The idea here is to propose  a new cycle of T&I incubator task activities aimed at the following tasks:

  1. Identifying an initial set of 2-3 services we’d like to promote as SPs to the new identity federations. (e.g.: Wiki, Moodle, Joomla, eduMEET, Filesender, ..)
  2. Design a solution based on automation, possibly using containers, or automated deployment tools like Ansible, Puppet (which we should aim at making easy for early services deployers), for the services we’d like to deploy. Or any script with the corresponding clear, easy to use documentation which would do as much of the initial installation and configuration work as possible, leaving to a minimum the amount of residual manual interventions required. 
  3. Define both technical and strategic roadmaps to ensure sustainability of these deployment solutions: how will they be upgraded/ported to new versions, which task, or permanent activity in the GN project, or the community could endorse the future work to keep the developed solution working also in future.

    This proposal is about using a full Incubator cycle  to develop an initial solution, work on it, and add some work to design in a clear way how things can be made sustainable after the T&I cycle would be over. 

 


Davide Vaghetti (GARR)

Simple IdM software tailored for R&E institutions


François Kooman (DeiC)

Deploying IdM software from scratch in R&E context is not easy. There are many moving parts, like LDAP, RADIUS, OIDC, SAML that all require their own installation, setup, configuration and maintenance.

Existing solutions are usually a combination of expensive, outdated, complicated, offer limited functionality, not well-matched for R&E requirements, difficult to install, operate, update or deploy securely.

Most solutions are focused on big enterprise deployments with thousands of users, but small(er) organizations are left without an and easy to deploy IdM.

What is needed is software that makes it very easy for small to medium organizations to host and deploy their own IdM which requires minimal babysitting and is easy to configure through the web by designated administrators.

What if you could simply install the software in ~5 minutes and configure it through the web interface in 5 more minutes and updating wouldn't be more complicated than running "apt upgrade" without having to worry about breaking your setup?

More details on the proposal can be found here: https://cryptpad.fr/pad/#/2/pad/view/H9LhKlsbHVmYYptrQnTzOwRmlfRrVGeV5PnBowJZpvg/



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