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Federations in Attendance (



  1. Belnet
  2. IDEM
  4. TAAT
  5. RCTSaai
  7. DFN-AAI
  8. InCommon
  9. AAI@EduHr
  11. UKf
  12. PIONIER.Id
  13. SWITCHaai
  14. RIF
  15. GRNET


  1. FER
  3. Grid Identity Pool
  4. CAF
  5. GARR
  6. ARNaai
  7. CIF
  8. AAIEduMk
  10. IRFed
  11. Haka
  12. HKAF
  13. LEAF
  14. IIF

Attendees (35)

  1. Brook Schofield, GÉANT
  2. Pascal Panneels, Belnet
  3. Davide Vaghetti, GARR/IDEM
  4. Muhammad Farhan Sjaugi, SIFULAN
  5. Sten Aus, TAAT
  6. Esmeralda Pires, RCTSaai
  7. Péter Molnár,
  8. Donald Coetzee, SAFIRE
  9. Guy Halse, SAFIRE
  10. Nick Roy, InCommon
  11. Wolfgang Pempe, DFN-AAI
  12. Miroslav Milinovic, AAI@EduHr
  13. Jiri BorikJiří Bořík,
  14. Rhys Smith, UK federation
  15. Maja Gorecka-Wolniewicz, PIONIER.Id
  16. Lukas Hämmerle, SWITCHaai
  17. Alex Mwotil, RIF
  18. Zenon Mousmoulas, GRNET
  19. Halil Adem, GRNET


  1. Anass Chabli, FER
  2. Anastas Mishev, AAIEduMk
  3. Andria Dionysiou, CIF
  4. Aouaouche El-Maouhab, ARNaai
  5. Chris Phillips, CAF
  6. Julie Menzies, CAF
  7. Davide Vaghetti, GARR
  8. Marco Fargetta, Grid Identity Pool
  9. Pål Axelsson, SWAMID
  10. Saeed Khademi, IRFed
  11. Timo Mustonen, HAKA
  12. Toby Chan, HKAF
  13. Tomasz Wolniewicz, PIONIER.Id
  14. Valentin Pocotilenco, LEAF
  15. Zivan Yoash, IIF
  16. *Marina Adomeit, SA2 Activity Leader

Apologies (6)

  1. Peter, ACOnet (mandatory internal meeting)
  2. Alejandro Lara, REUNA (Internal meeting)
  3. Nicole Harris, GÉANT
  4. Scott Koranda (sick)
  5. Raja Visvanathan, INFLIBNET
  6. Nicholas Mbonimpa, RIF


Outstanding Issues with Federations

The three (3) outstanding actions will remain outstanding.

eduGAIN Compliance Issues


Nick stated that InCommon have a new engineer... not are able to modify members metadata without positive action by participants. Working to address this.


Scott Koranda is unable to join todays meeting. There are regular SIRTFI conference calls co-ordinated by Tom Barton. At the last call (last Thursday) there was a request to send this information to the eduGAIN SG for their comment on whether the output of the SIRTFI+ registry is likely to be injested into eduGAIN (or how would federations make this available). The TechEx SIRTFI presentation slides are also available to inform the SG of the progress of SIRTFI and SIRTFI+ registry work.

Rhys stated that SIRTFI+ creates an attack point that undermines the integrity of the federation trust model.  .... "merging" the metadata isn't possible in any software. The order of import is importand  - but it is unknown in various federation tools.

Nick Roy - if the SIRTFI decoration is imported into eduGAIN then the entity isn't decorated in their home federation.

Chris - there are a lot of unknowns in the area of this registry. "Sympathetic" tagging of R&S in CAF if they see it tagged in another federation.

Chris asked about SIRTFI for OIDC? No, or at least not yet. Davide is aware and it will likely be future work.

Rhys is going to deep dive into the SIRTFI mailing lists.

Davide stated that this is a real problem.

Nick said for the both of the SIRTFI simulations there was a need to get in touch with the federation security contact. Adding a security contact to

Should this be a URL or an email address (mailto:) or (tel:)

Pål asked whether we do SIRTFI for the federation?

It seems to be

RENISAC (spelling) is the group that co-ordinates R&E security coordination for the InCommon community with almost.

  1. collect the security contact information (up to 3 values - URL, phone, email)
  2. look at the overlap between Trusted-Introducer ...

Autopopulation of the security contact with contact email address? No.

Miro stated that if there are 2 options ....





Future meetings

There is no future meeting for further meetings in 2018.