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Two Factor (something)

Description
  • Drive two factor towards ubiquity with low cost - create an eduToken (for the users that do not have a phone; critical mass can bring down the price even more. It can be implemented as a kickstarter campaign).

    • Challenges in deploying multi-factor in EU, partially due to the costs and partially due to the cost involved. A cost-effective approach would help.

    • An edu-token  as  a separate ‘token’ may reintroduce token management aspects (losing the token etc)

    • management is (will be even more) a non issue as the majority of people will use phones. We should strike for that.

    • Technically this problem can be solved, taking the above considerations into account.
      The real problem is how to scale the token vetting over EU. This is especially challenging for research collaborations.
ProposerFrom data gathering exercise
Resource requirements<money? effort? coordination? infrastructure?>
+1's<for others to voice their support - add your name here>
-1'sWolfgang Pempe, DFN: I believe this is out of scope for GÉANT, you would need a dedicated organization for that purpose

eduGAIN "Disruptive"


Title

Global Push-MDQ Infrastructure

DescriptionBuild a global, shared infrastructure for federations to submit/publish per-entity metadata to eduGAIN, and have those updates be pushed via messaging infrastructure to subscribers. This will enable more rapid metadata updates and a global per-entity metadata distribution infrastructure. It should be possible to accommodate multiple federations submitting/publishing metadata for the same entityIDs, and consumers can subscribe to whichever version they choose. NOTE: This may also facilitate a solution to IdP discovery in a per-entity metadata world.
ProposerNick Roy
Resource requirementsMoney, effort, standardisation, coordination, infrastructure, operations
+1's

 Chris Phillips - CANARIE – see related collab area: https://wiki.refeds.org/display/GROUPS/Incubator

Rhys Smith, UKf: Still not 100% convinced of the use case as MDQ is still immature so we don't yet understand its characteristics fully. But an interesting topic to investigate that might have nice properties.

Wolfgang Pempe, DFN: agree with Rhys



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Last_seen()

DescriptionFederated AAI is poorly equipped to support SPs in dealing with the depreciation of users by the IdP. Outside of at login time, the SP basically has no way of finding out the user is no longer a user at an institution, save perhaps sending out emails. A mechanism to allow SPs to learn about a user status would help SPs immensely to keep data accurate and at the same time improve privacy and data protection. This activity should investigate push and pull scenarios and propose and implement example solution(s), in collaboration with entities that produce commonly used software products in our space. Retaining the privacy of the enduser in the process is paramount!
ProposerNiels (SURFnet)
Resource requirementsmoney, software dev, standarization
+1's

Wolfgang Pempe (DFN): the current approach (at least in our federation) is to perform periodical attribute queries with SAML2 Persistent NameID, which leads to quite some problems.

SURFnet: +1

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Title

update SAML tracer

Description

The SAML Tracer (https://addons.mozilla.org/nl/firefox/addon/saml-tracer/) is a highly rated firefox plugin which was developed in our community (UNINETT, with contributions from others). As the browser is the central entity in any SAML transaction, it is extremely convenient tool for testing en debugging SAML transactions. There are not many alternatives to this tool

Unfortunately, Firefox has changed its plugin framework, rendering the existig plugin useless and a major rework is needed.

ProposerNiels van Dijk, SURFnet
Resource requirements

Money, a (junior) developer

+1's

Stefan Winter

Scott Koranda, LIGO

Nick Roy, InCommon

Thomas Lenggenhager, SWITCH:Feasibility to provide also a Chrome and/or Safari compatible version?

Pieter van der Meulen (SURFnet)

Michael Domingues (University of Iowa)

José Manuel, RedIRIS/SIR. Regarding Thomas question, there's a SAML Chome Panel extension for Chrome

Wolfgang Pempe, DFN


Title

certbot for all certificate management

Description

Let's Encrypt and the certbot have made certificate management for 1 particular CA very easy and effective. With the addition of ACME v2 this will allow additional CAs to participate and allow the dev/test/production environments to automatically deal with certificates.

Work should also investigate eduPKI and Let'sRADSEC use of this mechanism for certificate maintenance.

TechEx 2016 ACAMP notes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1o20NmuLjmNySp10QqfueO3of6jmoeTRfmgG4e_olZ_s/edit

ProposerBrook (and a cast of thousands)
Resource requirementsPeople, Money, work to get standardisation of "realm validated certificates via RADIUS infrastructure" and maybe other paths.
+1's

Georgi Tsochev, BREN

Rhys Smith, UKf: Certbot is going to take over the world, so we should start doing stuff with it.

Reimer Karlsen-Masur, DFN-PKI

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Title

Discovery for Attribute Authorities (AAs)

Description

Users can select their IdP via discovery, therefore the SP can potentially receive users from thousands of IdPs.

There is no such facility for AA-s however, meaning that SP-s need to hard-configure which AAs they query. Also, query all the configured AAs for all users all the time.

In GN4-1-JRA3-T1 it has been established that this is a serious bottleneck, as maximum 2-3 AAs can be queried without breaking the entire login session.

A better approach is needed. The SPs need to query AAs selectively, based on either user input or some alternative means, like some VO lookup service. Otherwise all SPs will just stick with the biggest AAs like eduTEAMS basic membership service or hexaa.eduid.hu and not query alternative entities, making single-tenant AAs very unattractive.

ProposerMihály Héder
Resource requirements

This is a hard one. Currently there is no support for any elements of this whatsoever

  • Standardization
  • SAML Stack development
  • blood and sweat
+1'sConstantin Sclifos, RENAM
-1'sWolfgang Pempe, DFN: Such a dynamic approach would raise issues concerning trust and privacy. An attribute authority must be in control auf of the list of SPs that are entitled to perform attribute queries and (possibly) recieve PII.

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