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Allow eduGAIN OT to enrich MDS metadata

Description

Currently, metadata is controlled exclusively by federation operators, which is generally good. However, there will pop up use-cases where it is more efficient, a lot faster and definitely more agile to allow eduGAIN OT to enrich eduGAIN metadata centrally with some entity categories because if all 50+ federations have to do something, it will take years and effort to set some entity category is duplicated for each federation.

ProposerLukas Hämmerle, SWITCH
Resource requirementsPolicy might need to be changed, it would have to be defined what/what not eduGAIN OT reasonably could and should do. Some (limited) implementation effort on MDS might be needed.
+1's

Nick Roy, InCommon

Tom Barton: Although "Query service for Sirtfi" above is formulated as a query service, it might best be implemented as an enrichment by eduGain OT to metadata. Should these two proposals become one?

Niels van Dijk, SURFnet: I would be really interested in how distributing the trust between decentralized federations and central OT would work.

Hannah Short, CERN

Constantin Sclifos, RENAM

Scott Koranda, LIGO

+1-1 = 0's

Rhys Smith, UKf: -1 because federations should really do this, not eduGAIN, which should just be an aggregator of MD, not producer. But +1 because I understand many federations don't and won't have the ability to do new stuff. So my votes cancel themselves out. So ignore me.

-1's

SURFnet: Many worries: role of aduGAIN of aggregator that is now going to modify metadata (SURFnet)

Wolfgang Pempe, DFN: I agree with SURFnet. If there's a really strong need for this approach (which I don't see at the moment), we could perhaps consider a solution, where federations can (actively!) delegate the task of adding ECs (or whatever) to their metadata to the eduGAIN OT - that would be very pleased, I suppose (wink) 


Title

IdP Maturity

Description

In the current eduGAIN SAML Profile work there is an effort to develop BCP to position a lot of the current "step-up" processes we have as a set of best current practice for eduGAIN.  Within eduGAIN, these will be positioned as what we consider mature entities  / federations to look like...and this could even possibly be flagged somehow.  The current requirements of eduGAIN will be promoted purely as a baseline and a "first step" to interoperability (acknowledging use cases that don't need any more than that).  The next logical step from that is to review whether there is any need to offer a central service to manage that maturity level for federations / entities as a bolt on to existing federation operations. This could take on a variety of forms and draw in a lot of the areas that have been proposed here. Options and areas could be:

- More work on the eduGAIN technical database to flag maturity for federation / entities.
- Establishing a REEP instance to allow entities to flag maturity when a federation is less developed.
- Allowing eduGAIN OT to decorate entities with additional information.
- Developing processes to allow MDS to select the most mature entity formulation within federations rather than simply the first submitted.
 -More advanced eduGAIN (including IdP certification, IdP categorisation, ...)
 -Standardise MRPS use
 -Standardise metadata publication practice

ProposerNicole Harris
Resource requirementsIt depends on the direction taken. Man hours in eduGAIN-OT for developing services, work for a policy lead, work to enhance eduGAIN support service. Possible infrastructure development
+1's

Nick Roy, InCommon

Rhys Smith, UKf: Sounds interesting, as long as long as we can decide what a "mature" federation/entity is, and who would be consuming this information, and for what purpose.

-1'sWolfgang Pempe, DFN: I'd rather favour some work on SP Maturity. There are so many crappy SPs around, especially commercial ones. It seems to me that the prevalent tendency in the T&I-related GÉANT activities (and REFEDS) is to impose more and more obligations on IdP operators, for instance in terms of levels of assurance. That's IMHO a bit unfair...
CommentsSURFnet: It is unclear to us what is the purpose for this work and who will be the users.

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