eduroam Development VC Minutes 2025-04-08
Attendance
Attendees
- Stefan Winter (Restena)
- Stefan Paetow (Jisc)
- Anders Nilsson (SUNET)
- Fabian Mauchle (Switch)
- Ed Kingscote (CANARIE)
- Tomasz Wolniewicz (PSNC)
- Alan DeKok (FreeRADIUS)
- Guy Halse (TENET)
- Christian Rohrer (Switch)
- Frederic Gerber (Switch)
- Zbigniew Ołtuszyk (PSNC)
- Ed Wincott (Jisc)
- Louis Twomey (HEAnet)
- Paul Dekkers (SURF)
- Janfred Rieckers (DFN)
- Maja Górecka-Wolniewicz (PSNC)
- Derek Eiler (NSHE)
- Ingimar Jonsson (RHnet)
- Martin Stanislav (SANET)
- Janos Mohacsi (Pro-M)
Regrets
Agenda / Proceedings
Welcome / Agenda Bashing
CAT
- progress, updates at TNC25
2b. MOBILITY DAY! at TNC2025 (Monday 9 June, 2PM)
https://wiki.geant.org/display/TFMNM/Mobility+Day+at+TNC25
2c. GeGC at TNC25 (Wednesday 11 June, 9AM)
WPA3
- Update from ‘TNC’: The network folks have been told. 6GHz has also been requested, ditto OR. Now we need to see what happens.
IETF
- RADIUS/1.1 is in last stages. Will be RFC 9765
- Reverse CoA is in last call
- RADIUS/TLS is in the last push for reviews / updates
- WBA has two proposed documents, current recommendation is “informational”
- Reject cache / delay document needs updates, but there is consensus
- No progress on other documents
OpenRoaming
- two very interested parties for the LU -> eduroam -> OpenRoaming bridge.
- There is a coalition contract between the governing parties which mentions “Wi-Fi for every citizen in all public places”. OpenRoaming is an interesting candidate for that.
- https://restena.lu/en/news/458-eduroam-luxembourg-further-expands
- In a “OR everywhere” world, what is the value of eduroam (SP) still?
AOB
- Wired 802.1x risks
- Updates on this: And when does geteduroam get the IdP-less “replacement for Managed IdP” functionality? Another Q for Paul next time
- This is the ability to have geteduroam notify on expiry for Managed IdP certs
- Concept was that Managed IdP might be replaced by direct email/token-provisioned account
- 25th anniversary of eduroam next year - is anything happening?
- Doesn’t seem like anyone was planning anything
- Maybe something for the Mobility Day/GeGC
- Alan - something something 4.0 :(
- Alan wants to emit FR 4.0.0 soon but gets distracted by paid-for users of FR.
- Wants to come up with release strategy, will likely not have Radsec, might not be suitable for eduroam
- Paul D: Can we have outbound TLS at least? Allows orgs to send traffic over Radsec at least.
Wi-Fi: What if you want to buy European, and/or not-cloud-managed?
- Restena and SURF would, but what’s the choices? (Put EU stickers over the Cisco logos? ;) )
- Is Nokia a US or EU corp?
- LANCOM (DE) and Mikrotik (ca. LV)
- Ubiquiti may not be European, but does have a no-cloud management option
- Next VC