Please Note that the above time is CONFIRMED.
Arrival & "Can you hear me now?" (see Connection Details)
Welcome, Introductions & Agenda Agreement
|Membership Updates and Joining|
eduGAIN MDS Certificate Rollover
eduGAIN "raising the bar"
eduGAIN SG Chair
Future SG Meetings
Any other business, Summary and Actions
Meeting ID: 114 216 575
Join Zoom Meeting https://geant.zoom.us/j/114216575
One tap mobile
Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/ac9mLp9qEL
Join by H.323
The Chair welcomed everyone to the 2nd meeting of 2019.
See the& Previous Meeting notes. The major open action will be covered within the meeting.
The wiki migration/update from earlier in the year has caused a problem with the open/complete action list. The Chair (or Casper) will remedy this.
The last meeting referenced two issues:
The latter issue is tabled for the agenda and Tomasz + the eduGAIN OT have conveyed this to the federations via the eduGAIN SG list (some "users" of the metadata were unaware of this change and there has been discussion on the Slack domain on this topic.
YETKİM have updated their MRPS and Uğur Yilmaz has voted in the most recent vote.
Discussion on how to deal with members that have been dormant and are now participating. MRPS flagging and revalidation FYI to the SG.
Set 'grace' period, 3-6 months. It should be clear that MRPS must be in place when a federation joins eduGAIN.
Revalidating changes to policy documents won't be taken on as a task at this point in time.
For details on new members and candidates see https://technical.edugain.org/status and work on progressing new members is underway.
No candidates currently under assessment.
The vote for Maeen is currently underway and is scheduled to complete next week (Tuesday 2nd).
Of the recent member federations, two (LIAF + CARSI) are providing metadata feeds.
The certificate that transports the signing key for MDS will expire on 1 July 2019.
OT to look at statistics on who's using the OLD feed location.
The eduGAIN Compliance Issues wiki page has been to be updated and this is an ongoing process.
Baseline expectation initiative by InCommon was discussed during the REFEDS meeting at TNC19. This could be an interesting initiative for eduGAIN too. Try to increase velocity in respect to gather the baseline.
Validator now shows:
While progress is being made on RED errors the YELLOW warnings that are truely our baseline aren't being corrected.
How long would baseline take to complete? The belief by Ann West (based on the time that it took from InCommon) was in the order of 3-5 years.
Terry reported that the AAF required IdPs to support R&S and SIRTFI to "opt-in" to eduGAIN.
Technical Metadata, InCommon Behavioural Baseline, Validator2 are 3 different types of metadata that create interoperability issues for federations that violate these interoperability rules between federations.
Set up a scale/colour code/score card to monitor.
Set up a Work Group that comes up with recommendations? Promote this at TechEx. Contact Brook for more information on this. Initial discussion on Slack.
CoCo monitor: is it useful if it could alarm the helpdesk.
The eduGAIN Steering Group Chair position that is currently held by Brook Schofield has expired.
Terry Smith, AAF has agreed to be the new SG Chair (2019-2020).
A discussion on Observers from research infrastructures was raised at REFEDS. Historically the eduGAIN "Town Hall" was a forum to take wider input. Having SPs or RIs on the eduGAIN SG just to tell us to do better isn't useful and there are many fora for collecting the views of the wider community including REFEDS, FIM4R, FIM4L, FOG (and the soon to be SPOG). If there are concrete proposals on who to include that would be useful.
The current observers to the eduGAIN SG will also be flagged to the SG as these positions need to be re-validated.
The next SG meeting was confirmed to take place on Tuesday 17th September 2019 13:00 UTC Drop in sessions:
No other business was raised. The meeting closed on time.