eduroam Development VC Minutes 2025-04-08

Attendance

Attendees

  • Stefan Winter (Restena)
  • Stefan Paetow (Jisc)
  • Anders Nilsson (SUNET)
  • Fabian Mauchle (Switch)
  • Ed Kingscote (CANARIE)
  • Tomasz Wolniewicz (PSNC)
  • Alan DeKok (FreeRADIUS)
  • Guy Halse (TENET)
  • Christian Rohrer (Switch)
  • Frederic Gerber (Switch)
  • Zbigniew Ołtuszyk (PSNC)
  • Ed Wincott (Jisc)
  • Louis Twomey (HEAnet)
  • Paul Dekkers (SURF)
  • Janfred Rieckers (DFN)
  • Maja Górecka-Wolniewicz (PSNC)
  • Derek Eiler (NSHE)
  • Ingimar Jonsson (RHnet)
  • Martin Stanislav (SANET)
  • Janos Mohacsi (Pro-M)

Regrets

Agenda / Proceedings

  1. Welcome / Agenda Bashing

  2. CAT

    • progress, updates at TNC25

2b. MOBILITY DAY! at TNC2025 (Monday 9 June, 2PM)
https://wiki.geant.org/display/TFMNM/Mobility+Day+at+TNC25

2c. GeGC at TNC25 (Wednesday 11 June, 9AM)

  1. WPA3

    • Update from ‘TNC’: The network folks have been told. 6GHz has also been requested, ditto OR. Now we need to see what happens.

  2. IETF

    • RADIUS/1.1 is in last stages. Will be RFC 9765
    • Reverse CoA is in last call
    • RADIUS/TLS is in the last push for reviews / updates
    • WBA has two proposed documents, current recommendation is “informational”
    • Reject cache / delay document needs updates, but there is consensus
    • No progress on other documents

  3. OpenRoaming

    • two very interested parties for the LU -> eduroam -> OpenRoaming bridge.
    • There is a coalition contract between the governing parties which mentions “Wi-Fi for every citizen in all public places”. OpenRoaming is an interesting candidate for that.
    • https://restena.lu/en/news/458-eduroam-luxembourg-further-expands
    • In a “OR everywhere” world, what is the value of eduroam (SP) still?

  4. AOB

    • Wired 802.1x risks
    • Updates on this: And when does geteduroam get the IdP-less “replacement for Managed IdP” functionality? Another Q for Paul next time
      • This is the ability to have geteduroam notify on expiry for Managed IdP certs
      • Concept was that Managed IdP might be replaced by direct email/token-provisioned account
    • 25th anniversary of eduroam next year - is anything happening?
      • Doesn’t seem like anyone was planning anything
      • Maybe something for the Mobility Day/GeGC
    • Alan - something something 4.0 :(
      • Alan wants to emit FR 4.0.0 soon but gets distracted by paid-for users of FR.
      • Wants to come up with release strategy, will likely not have Radsec, might not be suitable for eduroam
        • Paul D: Can we have outbound TLS at least? Allows orgs to send traffic over Radsec at least.

  5. Wi-Fi: What if you want to buy European, and/or not-cloud-managed?

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