eduroam Development VC Minutes 2026-04-21
Attendance
Attendees
- Stefan Winter (RESTENA)
- Anders Nilsson
- Guy Halse (TENET)
- Stefan Paetow (Jisc)
- Fabian Mauchle (Switch)
- Tomasz Wolniewicz (PCSS)
- Maja Górecka-Wolniewicz (PCSS)
- Janfred Rieckers (DFN)
- Alan DeKok (InkBridge)
- Frederic Gerber (Switch)
- Mohit Sharma (CANARIE)
- Chris Rohrer (Switch)
- Ed Kingscote (CANARIE)
- Louis Twomey (Asiera)
- Janos Mohacsi (Pro-M)
- Paul Dekkers (SURF)
- Ed Wincott (Jisc)
Regrets
Agenda / Proceedings
Welcome / Agenda Bashing
CAT / Managed SP
- wired 802.1X support for Linux installers easy and in the works (requires NetworkManager; other variants don’t get wired support)
- Managed SP issues
- old orgs: disabled RADIUS deployment re-enabling leads to error
- RADIUS server reachability over IPv6 issues?
- Status-Server responses don’t have Message-Authenticator (prod is indeed old FreeRADIUS; new is in testing)
- Managed SP “Pilot” will move into main CAT
- https://cat-test.eduroam.org/services Set Enable hosted services for your federation to play with MSP
- IdP-only orgs will still not be able to use the feature, even if fed-level has it On
- old SP deployments will remain working for “a while” (timescale TBDefined)
Anon Outer IDs / expired roots: warning admins
- next CAT version will display summary to NRO admin (around TNC26)
geteduroam
- get.eduroam.org and OpenRoaming?
- NAPTR records for eduroam realms are by default DISabled, so no OpenRoaming
- reason is that radsecproxy “non-blocking” is typically not set, and first-auth connections systematically fail
- you will need to ask Paul to get it enabled
- (pseudo-accounts on Android will not do OpenRoaming regardless)
IETF
- Future work on TEAP and hopefully TEAPv2. Will the eduroam community be the drivers of future EAP methods?
- We kind of were the driving force of getting EAP-TTLS into Windows so…
- Or should we be more active in pushing EAP-TLS 1.3 anon ID testing being brought into WFA WPA3 certification?
WFA / WBA
- Radiator etc. are pushing RadSec through WFA (Radiator support for RadSec TLS/PSK?)
AOB
NTLM EOL/NPS?- not clear, but possible, that NTLMv2 will be discontinued or optionally-enabled in the next version of Windows Server
- Similar to CredentialGuard?!
- https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/windows-itpro-blog/advancing-windows-security-disabling-ntlm-by-default/4489526
- Open question on whether Microsoft will fix NPS to ensure it still works.
- geteduroam is a way out (auth with SAML/ADFS and then pseudo-credentials)
- other alternatives?
- not clear, but possible, that NTLMv2 will be discontinued or optionally-enabled in the next version of Windows Server
Next call 05 May 2026 1530 CEST