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TTC Meeting, Amsterdam
10 th February February 2014

Agenda 

  1. Welcome, introductions, agenda
  2. Approval of Minutes: https://wiki.terena.org/display/TTC/TTC+minutes+-+2014-11-05
  3. Review of Outstanding Action Points
  4. Secretariat reports
    4.1. TF-MNM re-chartering (Nicole Harris)
    4.2. TF-WebRTC report (Peter Szegedi)
    4.3. OER pilot delivery  (Peter Szegedi)
    4.4. REFEDS update (Nicole Harris and Licia Florio)
    4.5. AARC (Licia Florio)
    4.6. MAGIC (Brook Schofield)
    4.7. E4ERA (John Dyer)
    4.8. TF-MSP Joined Procurement (John Dyer)
  5. Initial set of topics for the TAC discussion at TNC15
  6. Green house discussion (Licia Florio and Nicole Harris)
  7. European Workshop on Trust and Identity (working with Rainer Hörbe) (Nicole Harris)
  8. TTC Member updates
    8.1. "HE Media Services" (Vincente Goyanes)AOB

Participants: Michael Enrico (ME), Peter Schober (PSc), Peter Szegedi (PSz), Vincente Goyanes (VG), Alessandra Scicchitano (AS), Rob Evans (RE), Laura Durnford (LD), Licia Florio (LF), Yannis Mitsos (YM), Valentino Cavalli (VC), Valter Nordh (VN), David Groep (DG), Brook Schofield (BS), Nicole Harris (NH), John Dyer (JD)

Notes: Sigita Jurkynaite (SJ)

Apologies: None

 

1. Welcome and agreement of agenda

VN welcomed the participants and opened the meeting. Michael Enrico (GÉANT Association, Cambridge) was present for the first time and all members introduced themselves with a brief description of their roles and responsibilities.

The agenda was approved.

 

2. Approval of Minutes

The members of the TTC approved the minutes of the 5th of November 2014 via e-mail after the meeting.

 https://wiki.terena.org/display/TTC/TTC+minutes+-+2014-11-05

 

3. Review of Outstanding Action Points

Ref.

Status

Who

Action

Comment

20140219-6

OPEN

TTC

Re-consider a joined task force meeting in 2016

To be revisited

20140929-3

UPDATED

AS

ISM SIG to provide charter with more clearly defined and elaborated objectives

AS sent an email with the changes made so far. TTC questioned the proposal that ISM SIG could be a closed group. AS informed that the group intends to be fully opened up later and that it is not entirely closed - CERN can apply and the steering committee would decide case by case. TTC felt that if there is selection, clearer criteria are needed. However, SIG is not a TF – it should be more open and inclusive, especially because no sensitive information to be shared on that list.

Action (updated from 20140929-3):

1. AS to convey the comments of the TTC to the Steering Committee

2. TTC to continue this discussion online.

20140929-5

CLOSED

MN

Explore alternative VC meeting system for the TTC members to use

Either technology depending on the room can be used - problem with the end side, so if anyone wants to participate remotely, we can discuss it with them separately

20141105-01

OPEN

(Discussion postponed)

JD

PDOs

Improve TFs’ communication by using (TERENA) social media channels in a coordinated way

 

a) a strategy to reach the unknowns (Comms staff - JD to share some ideas during the next TTC);

b) a way to make the outcome of the community work easy to read for everybody. Each PDO is encouraged to share the main results of the TFs via social medias.

 

20141105-02

 

CLOSED

AS

To contact YM and PSc for Phase 2 of TCS

AS gave a brief update on the status of the new service, informing that Phase 1 has successfully ended and Phase 2 started with 3 NRENs testing the APIs. Phase 3 will start on 1 March, anyone will be able to join, but will have to pay. AS had a meeting with the NRENs to explain the process, received positive feedback.

20141105-03

 

CLOSED

LF

To report on the management team decision on how to progress with the green house project

 

Reported later in the meeting

20141105-04

 

CLOSED

DG

To report on the EGI pilot to ensure eduGAIN team is in the loop.

 

Reported, slides distributed. http://www.nikhef.nl/~davidg/presentations/Long-tail-of-science-EGI-solagna-fim4r-v2-dgmod-20150209-TTC.pdf

LD suggested that it would be good to have a news item about it for the Connect magazine, DG agreed.

Action: LD to follow up on this

 

20141105-05

 

CLOSED

LF

To have an agenda item for the next TTC to start the preparation for the TAC

 

 

20141105-06

 

CLOSED

LF

To confirm the date for the next TTC

 

 

 

 4. Secretariat reports

 

4.1. TF-MNM re-chartering – Nicole Harris

NH reported that TF-MNM came up for re-chartering in September 2014 and presented the ToR for approval of TTC.

NH noted that the main focus was placed on setting achievable goals, benefiting the whole community – for that several new tasks had to be added and more concrete deliverables set. NH also noted that strong reporting ties need to be implemented. NH explained that there is a wish, expressed by the community, for TF-MNM to function as a global eduroam forum. This might duplicate the function of eduroam Steering Group, although only Europeans can participate in that group. According to NH, this will be explored and recommendations made.

NH also informed the TTC that nobody was named to lead any particular areas yet, but there are a few names in mind.

TTC approved the ToR. Re-approval due in September 2016.

 

4.2. TF-WebRTC report – Peter Szegedi

PSz reported on the first TF-WebRTC meeting that was organized in December. The meeting was very successful with more than 35 attendees participating in person and 17 via VC - good interest, including participants from the industry.

TF-WebRTC is not focused on the technology itself, but the use of technology. One of the goals is to identify the appropriate tools to be used once the funding is available.

Two main goals at the moment:

  • Create an open forum - industry and NREN
  • Focus the activity to use the GÉANT funding in a good way

PSz noted that the next meeting will be held in April in Budapest, already attracted sufficient interest.

 

4.3. OER Pilot delivery – Peter Szegedi

PSz reported that the OER portal pilot project is now successfully finished. Major objectives were achieved - back-end (harvesting and aggregation), 8 repositories connected to the aggregation service, out of more than 22 000 learning items available, more than 12 000 objects were filtered and made available on the portal. Front-end pilot was developed, including subject fields, most viewed-recent viewed, advanced search functionality, etc. - linking together materials that previously could not physically be linked together. Google search will lead to this portal.

PSz noted that a position paper “NREN Community Statement on Open Education” was published.

Based on the KPIs, most targets achieved and exceeded, except for the connection with global OER initiatives. Real project costs do not exceed the estimated costs.

Next steps: OER in T3 of SA8 in GN4, demo at the Symposium and TNC15.

VN inquired about the means of communications to be used to disseminate information about the OER. PSz informed that there was someone working on the PR message throughout the project, some materials are already prepared and will be used. LD added that a PeaR news item will come out next week.

 

4.4. REFEDS update – Nicole Harris and Licia Florio

NH and LF reported on REFEDS, which is a sponsored activity, paid for by some of the participants.

NH noted that there is an annual work plan, consisting of short term goals and indicated some of the main points of the Annual Report of 2014:

  • Setting out a baseline level of assurance in federations, common ground in identity federations. Apparently, the issue is not so much related to the policy issues, but operational practices instead – tried to address that;
  • To satisfy the growing need to categorize a lot of metadata, entity categories are used for tagging (8000 categories);
  • Working on the Metadata Query Protocol - federations dealing with a lot of data need better tools and specifications to be able to manage metadata;
  • Working with the certified group – Security Incident Response within identity federations;
  • SCHAC (SCHema for Academia) - LF sent slides around with main objectives and other information; (https://wiki.refeds.org/display/STAN/SCHAC)
  • REFEDS documents published via RFC process - successful moving that forward, will continue to increase that as the main publication
  • Working in specialist working groups, focus groups
  • Working on core services

LF noted that the sponsorship structure of REFEDS is changing, partially because sponsors felt that sponsorship was handled unprofessionally. For that reason, the process had to be formalized. REFEDS remains an open group and it is not necessary to contribute financially to be part of it. However, 4 categories of sponsorship are introduced. Sponsors will need to be more involved in the preparation of the yearly plan, provide suggestions.

NH also noted that a new plan is in place for this year.

 

4.5. AARC – Licia Florio

LF reported on AARC (Authentication and Authorization for Research and Collaboration) - a two year project, funding for which (€3M) has recently been granted by the EC. 19 funded partner organizations will contribute to AARC. At the moment the project is in the grant preparation phase, some details need to be improved. LF noted that AARC is complementary to GÉANT - it involves not only NRENs, but also libraries and other organizations and institutions. There are 5 work packages:

  • Management
  • Training and Outreach
  • Analysis of existing e-Infrastructures
  • Policy
  • Pilots

It is expected that if all required documentation will be signed in time, the project will start on May 1, 2015.

 

4.6. MAGIC – Brook Schofield

BS reported on MAGIC - the successor to the successful ELCIRA project (http://elcira.eu) which will expand its geographic coverage during its 2015-2017 lifetime with €1.4M in funding across 20 global partners to support eduroam, Federated Identity and eduGAIN (WP2), Cloud Provisioning and GroupWare (WP3), Real-Time Collaboration services such as SIP, NRENum.net and WebRTC (WP4) and supporting Global Science Communities (WP5).

 

4.7. E4ERA – John Dyer

JD reported that E4ERA bid for the EC funding was not successful.  The main idea of the project was bringing together e-Infrastructures providers with the users. JD noted that there is a meeting scheduled to discuss how to proceed and whether there is a way to go on with the project in some other way.

 

4.8. TF-MSP Joined procurement – John Dyer

JD reported that at the moment, much procurement is done individually, although bringing them together would give a larger bargaining power. To discuss a possibility of joined procurements a meeting is being organized in March in Amsterdam. It will be an opened meeting, everyone is welcome to attend – it will be announced in PeaR next week. Also, a wiki page supporting this activity is currently being created - information will be made available for everyone from the community (access will be given upon request).

 

5. Initial set of topics for the TAC discussion at TNC15

VN initiated a discussion to identify a set of initial topics for the TAC discussion at TNC15 so that the agenda would be drafted and the right speakers identified and invited on time. NH noted that the TAC topics should reflect the main theme of the TNC (connected communities) and that it is important not to hesitate to approach anyone to be the main speaker. In reaction to PSc suggestion that a feedback cycle from previous meetings should be introduced, VN commented that is has been done, but should be reinforced.

VN noted the areas that will be most relevant in the coming 3 years: changing the structure of the backbone, improving communication with our shareholders (CEOs), and services - new introduced, but none replaced.

 During the discussion, a set of topics was collected:

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Action: It was agreed to have a video conference meeting on March 9, 2015 (14:00 – 16:00) to discuss the topics for the TAC session at TNC15 again, in preparation for which the TTC members will reconsider the list and consult other members of their organization.

 

6. Greenhouse project – Licia Florio and Nicole Harris

LF reported that the Greenhouse activity has been started – a plan has been set and the concept is ready to be moved forward. A short report, including a high plan, can be found online (https://wiki.terena.org/display/GREEN/Greenhouse+Home). At the beginning, the most important tasks were shaping the concept (what is Greenhouse), looking into the requirements of the projects in order to see whether there are common requirements that can be addressed, and looking into existing models, since there are groups that already offer something similar.

NH noted that it has been recognized that different products and projects have different needs from a software conservancy organization like the Greenhouse. Given that, product needs assessment has been initiated, for which different projects were asked to provide data. Once the data is in, it will be possible to analyses the information and decide whether it is feasible to further implement this project. 

NH also noted that it is important to identify the right approach – there is a need to better understand what to focus on, looking at the projects that are not funded by the GÉANT Project, to have something that is community driven as a starting point.

 

7. European Workshop on Trust and Identity – Nicole Harris

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TTC strongly supported the idea and encouraged further collaboration.

 

8. TTC Member updates

 

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VG noted that it is becoming urgent for the NRENs to act in response of the growing need for higher education media services – separate NRENs are possibly doing something on their own, but a unified approach is necessary. PSz responded that the MOOC area is covered in the OER Position Paper - if NRENs can produce good quality MOOCs, universities could use it. However, this area required too much effort previously and ended up being a top-down approach due to the lack of effort from the community on these type of projects. VN suggested that it might be useful to initiate a BoF. VC added that perhaps someone else (not PSz) from GÉANT could take over this task.

It was decided to leave this question up to the staff of GÉANT Association Amsterdam to decide whether and how to proceed further.

 

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The date for the next TTC meeting – TBC.

VN closed the meeting.

 

10. Summary of New and Open action points

 

Ref.

Status

Who

Action

Comment

20140219-6

OPEN

TTC

Re-consider a joined task force meeting in 2016

To be revisited

20141105-01

OPEN

 

JD

PDOs

Improve TFs’ communication by using (TERENA) social media channels in a coordinated way

 

a) a strategy to reach the unknowns (Comms staff - JD to share some ideas during the next TTC);

b) a way to make the outcome of the community work easy to read for everybody. Each PDO is encouraged to share the main results of the TFs via social medias.

 

20150210-1

 

UPDATED

AS

1. AS to convey the comments of the TTC to the ISM SIG Steering Committee

2. TTC to continue this discussion online

UPDATED from action 20140929-3 (ISM SIG to provide charter)

20150210-2

OPEN

LD

Follow up on the news item about the EGI pilot for the Connect magazine

 

20150210-3

OPEN

TTC

Consider the list of topics for the TAC, consult home organizations, discuss the topics during a separate meeting

TTC meeting (VC) regarding TAC topics: 9 March 14:00-16:00

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